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Who won the Vance-Walz vice presidential debate?


Who won the Vance-Walz vice presidential debate?

Reuters JD Vance and Tim Walz at the debate Reuters

Tuesday night's vice presidential debate between Republican JD Vance and Democrat Tim Walz was a civil, relatively low-key conversation about issues facing American voters in the 2024 campaign.

In this respect, it differed from the two presidential debates earlier this year.

There were moments when Vance bristled at what he saw as unfair fact-checking by the two CBS anchors, and at one point both candidates' microphones were temporarily muted. But for the most part, the exchange between the two candidates — and the contestants and moderators — was civil.

There were even times when they agreed – and said so.

“There are a lot of similarities here,” Walz said toward the end of the evening.

When the topic turned to affordable housing, co-host Nora O'Donnell noted that both candidates seemed to care deeply about it. And when Walz talked about his 17-year-old witnessing a shooting at a community center, Vance seemed genuinely concerned.

“I’m sorry and I hope he’s OK,” Vance said. “Christ have mercy, it’s terrible.”

But the two came with different ideas and skills, which became clear right from the start of the debate.

Vance tends to have a smoother delivery and comes across as more experienced on television, while Walz has a more down-to-earth, average demeanor.

Early on Tuesday night, Vance's answers were crisp and clear, and he appeared more confident, while Walz stumbled, appeared uncomfortable, stilted and unfamiliar with certain topics.

A moderate debate with few political arguments also likely served Vance best in the end, giving him space to defend his running mate, Donald Trump, and smooth out some of the former president's rougher edges.

If Vance was singled out for putting ideological meat on the bones of Trump's conservative populism, Vance also showed them a polite, humble face Tuesday night.

“These people are making a lot of claims that if Donald Trump becomes president, all these terrible consequences are going to happen,” he said. “But in reality, Donald Trump was president. Inflation was low. The take-home pay was higher.”

Watch: Microphones muted after host Vance fact-checks Springfield migrants

Warmly – with some arguments

The most heated disagreement came toward the end of the debate over Trump's repeated claims that the 2020 election was stolen from him.

When Vance was asked whether Trump lost the last presidential election, he dodged the question and criticized what he described as censorship of Kamala Harris.

Walz was quick to note that it was a “fucking non-response.”

“Denying what happened on January 6th, the first time an American president or anyone tried to overturn an election, must stop. “It’s tearing our country apart.”

Walz went on to say that the only reason Mike Pence, Trump's former vice president, was not on stage was because he was confirming President Joe Biden's victory.

Vance had no answer, emphasizing that beyond his friendly demeanor and agreeableness, he would not deviate from Trump's baseless claims.

Two different styles

Vance and Walz came to this debate with different skill sets. Vance engaged in heated arguments with journalists on television. Walz is at home in the election campaign and uses his folksy style in contrast to more solid politicians.

At the start of this debate, with both candidates standing behind podiums in a New York television studio, Vance seemed much more comfortable. His answers were smooth and unyielding, constantly reminding the audience that despite Vice President Kamala Harris' promises, Democrats have held the White House for the past three and a half years.

“If Kamala Harris has such big plans to address the problems of the middle class, she should implement them now,” he said.

For his part, Walz seemed hesitant and uncertain about the opening topic, the Iranian missile attack on Israel on Tuesday. The Minnesota governor rarely speaks about foreign policy, and his discomfort on the subject was evident.

The Democrat got along as the debate progressed, and during his exchanges with Vance on immigration – an area of ​​Republican strength – both delivered precise messages.

Vance denied allegations that he amplified false claims about the theft and consumption of pets by Haitian immigrants in Ohio.

“The people I worry about most in Springfield, Ohio, are the American citizens whose lives have been ruined by Kamala Harris’ border policies,” he said.

Vance said undocumented migration strains the city's resources, drives up prices and depresses wages.

Walz pointed to Trump's opposition to proposed bipartisan immigration legislation earlier this year.

“I believe Senator Vance wants to solve this problem, but by standing with Donald Trump and not working together to find a solution, it becomes a talking point, and when it becomes such a talking point, we dehumanize and denigrate other people. “

Walz on the Tiananmen claim: “I’m a moron sometimes.”

When the issue turned to abortion – a Democratic strength area, according to polls – it was Vance who took the defense, acknowledging that Republicans have work to do to win the trust of American voters.

“I want us as the Republican Party to be pro-family in the truest sense of the word,” he said. “I want us to make it easier for mothers to afford children. We can do so much on the public political front just to give women more opportunities.”

Walz responded that the Democratic view on abortion is simple: “We are pro-women. We are pro-freedom to make your own choice.”

If Walz focused more on abortion, he declined to step up his attacks when it came to gun control.

After Vance said it was important to increase security in schools and make doors and windows “stronger,” Walz talked about background checks instead of supporting Democrats' calls for assault weapons bans and other restrictions on firearms.

As a congressman, Walz regularly voted for gun rights and against many gun control measures, winning the praise of the pro-gun National Rifle Association. He said during the debate that his views on gun control changed after the 2012 Sandy Hook school shooting, but some Democrats may be disappointed that he didn't press Vance harder Tuesday night.

What are the implications of a vice presidential debate?

American political history suggests that vice president debates don't really matter.

In 1988, Democrat Lloyd Bentsen defeated Republican Dan Quayle. A few months later, Quayle was sworn in as vice president after his ticket won in a landslide.

It may turn out that this debate is also irrelevant to the November results. However, unless a last-minute debate is announced, this will be the last word both parties have in a debate before Election Day.

Walz did no harm to the Democratic candidacy and showed some of the Midwestern charm that made him Harris' choice.

But Vance's strong performance is likely to give Republicans a boost in the coming days.

And the lasting impact of the debate could be to convince members of his party that the senator from Ohio, just 40 years old, has a future in national conservative politics as he is able to make their ideological priorities clear on the brightest stages to move forward.

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